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  • Smoking Cigarettes, Wine and HCM

    I quit smoking not too long ago. Of course I know it was a wise decision I'd like to know if anyone ever smoked or smokes now and I'd also like to know how wine fits into the whole thing. I always hear mixed things about that.

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    Congratulations on quitting smoking! You probably did the best thing you could ever do for your heart and your general health. I think you will hear from people that wine can promote arrhythmias---at least in some people. My problem comes when I add wine (or other alcoholic beverage) to too much food, maybe some coffee and chocolate for dessert. Moderation is probably the key here! Sue

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      Re: Smoking Cigarettes, Wine and HCM

      i don't need to explain why smoking is bad.

      alcohol dehydrates a person and dehydration is very dangerous for HCMers as it lowers your bp (which was already probably normal-low to begin with) and puts a lot of pressure on the heart. if you must drink, you should have at least 2 glasses of plain, flat water for each glass of alcohol.

      most of us avoid it altogher.

      s

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        Some people tolorate alcohol well, even though it is causing dehydration. SOme people (like yours truely) do not tolorate it well at all - I get chest pain, palpitations, and turn WHITE as a ghost with a minimal amount of alcohol. I will admit - If I get very well hydrated, eat some extra salt and have one drink I do OK. Frankly it is too much work and risk for a drink!

        I think the last time I had a drink was after last years meeting - my father-in-law had passed away the day before the meeting - the meeting was over, I have no idea how I made it through the day without going NUTS...and I had one drink....and it went straight to my head...but thats what I wanted at that moment....I also figured I had a room full of docs if I ran into trouble

        In short - stay away from it.

        lisa
        Knowledge is power ... Stay informed!
        YOU can make a difference - all you have to do is try!

        Dx age 12 current age 46 and counting!
        lost: 5 family members to HCM (SCD, Stroke, CHF)
        Others diagnosed living with HCM (or gene +) include - daughter, niece, nephew, cousin, sister and many many friends!
        Therapy - ICD (implanted 97, 01, 04 and 11, medication
        Currently not obstructed
        Complications - unnecessary pacemaker and stroke (unrelated to each other)

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          I loved wine, but stopped it all together in Sept. 2002 and the PVC's I was having have almost disapeared. I still would like to have a glass or two but it's not worth it.

          Ralph

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            Re: Smoking Cigarettes, Wine and HCM

            I am a smoker. I have tried to quit several times over the years but never have "made" it. Right now I'm on the nicotine patch and have gone two weeks without. I really truly hope I can make it this time. I feel sooo much better and my symptoms( chest pain, sob, palpitations) have all decreased alot. I even got on the treadmill last night for 20 minutes! This is somthing that I was never able to do for longer than 10 minutes before without getting chest/arm pain and skipped beats. I also love wine, my husband and a friend make wine. They have a regular winery in the friends basement and make about 800 bottles a year of different red wines. Needless to say we have a supply of wine at our house always. After several years of testing I have found that I can drink one glass of wine with dinner a night if I sip it slowly, eat lightly and drink a glass of water before and after the wine without symptoms. If I am out and want more than one glass I just wait about 30 minutes between glass ( sipping on water) and then have another one. Two glasses is my limit unless I want to stay up half the night with chest pains and palpitations. This works for me but maybe not for others.

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              I have to honestly say, that the one thing I miss the MOST is being able to have Kahlua sombreros!! I have been on coumadin for almost 10 years now and know that drinking to much alcohol will interfer with the clotting. Although my former cardiologist used to say I could in moderation (ie.no more than 2 drinks at one time). But now with all this $#@# going on with a-fib, hopefully being controlled with the verapamil, I know that it's 2 strikes against me. It has been really bothering me lately. Not that I drank much in the past but I'm afraid to have one! Family get togethers, for example, Christmas time....everyone is having a great time, drinking socially and I so badly want to join in. It stinks.
              \"It is not length of life, but depth of life.\"

              Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                CONGRADULATIONS!! Quitting Smoking is Soooooo hard to do! I stopped smoking 2 weeks prior to my Myectomy- 7 months ago. Best suggestion I can offer is : Zyban. Your Dr would probably be very happy to write the Script, for you. I was a huge Help for me. Also Mayo Clinic (where I had Myectomy) highly reccommends it. Regarding Drinking, I have 1-2 drinks a month & I don't have any problems, but everyone reacts differently. I also consume 0 Caffine (Dr. orders)
                If you crave a cigarette - send me an email- don't give in - the worst is past
                Ronnie
                RONNIE

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                  Re: Smoking Cigarettes, Wine and HCM

                  Oh Cynthia , Now I'm Yearning for a kahlua sombrero too. Oh well wishfull thoughts! That too for me caused big problems . I passed out a lot with 1-2 drinks no matter what it was. My heart would pound so bad I felt like it would come out my chest. Haven't touched alcohol since 1994, long before I knew that I had HCM ,Just got scared as to what it made my heart do. My 2 cents. Pam
                  Dx @ 47 with HOCM & HF:11/00
                  Guidant ICD:Mar.01, Recalled/replaced:6/05 w/ Medtronic device
                  Lead failure,replaced 12/06.
                  SF lead recall:07,extracted leads and new device 2012
                  [email protected] Tufts, Boston:10/5/03; age 50. ( [email protected] 240 mmHg ++)
                  Paroxysmal A-Fib: 06-07,2010 controlled w/sotalol dosing
                  Genetic mutation 4/09, mother(d), brother, son, gene+
                  Mother of 3, grandma of 3:Tim,27,Sarah,33w/6 y/o old Sophia, 5 y/o Jack, Laura 34, w/ 5 y/o old Benjamin

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                    Re: Smoking Cigarettes, Wine and HCM

                    I can't handle alcohol at all! I get dehydrated quite easily. Doesn't take a lot of that to really get my hear rarin! The last drink I had was a mud slide into second base. I didn't even make it to first. I had about half of it and my heart rate went up to 160 and I felt very dizzy and light headed.

                    I have never had more than a couple of drinks since I was diagnosed at 21! Finally, get to drink and then another thing comes a long to prohibit me! That's what I get for being good and not drinking until I was supposed to!

                    Mary S.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Smoking Cigarettes, Wine and HCM

                      I finally quit smoking in Nov 2003, mostly for my significant other, who threatened to leave me if I didn't. I was diagnosed with HCM five years ago, and I was under the impression that I was going to die whether I smoked or not, so I guess I had a death wish or something.

                      I drink occasionally, and it doesn't seem to do much but make me very sleepy! The bubbles in beer give me the worst tightening in my chest too, so if I have any drinks, it's usually one Cosmo.

                      I have found the biggest thing to bring on palpitations is a large meal, all at once. It's better if I have smaller meals throughout the day (slimfast, yogurt, etc.), and then I don't get so tired!

                      -just my 2 cents
                      Shelley
                      \"Well behaved women rarely make history...\"

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                        Re: Smoking Cigarettes, Wine and HCM

                        OK folks, it’s the old man at it again.
                        I smoked for over thirty-two years, and the last number of years a carton would last only about four and a half days. At times it was so bad I would try to put a cigarette in my mouth to find one already there, and when I went to put it in the ashtray I found one burning there as well. That ever happen to you?

                        Anyway, I tried for years to quit. Once I thought I didn’t have to smoke while eating – ten weeks and forty pounds later I bought another carton. A few times I thought I could just cut down. That plan usually only lasted a couple of hours – and finally, I hit upon a method that did work for me.

                        I asked the question, “Who’s running my life, me or American Tobacco?” I quit cold and walked around for two days doubled over. I then took some note paper, rolled the sheets into different length cigarettes and stuffed them with cotton so I would have a ‘drag’. I’d start with the long one, and every few minutes I’d shift to a smaller one. After two days I was over the nicotine addiction and these ‘cigarettes’ helped me over the mechanical addiction. I used them for a month to six weeks. Then they became ‘a bother’ and I was cured. I still walked around after smokers trying to get a whiff of smoke, but I wouldn’t light up. From time to time I would get the urge to have a cigarette again, but I knew where that would lead. After a few years even that temptation ended.

                        I quit on January 1, 1982 – four and a half years before my first heart cath., and not a moment to soon. Quitting is a bear, but it is do-able.
                        Burt

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