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Srmartinson Dx in 1996, ICD in 4/2004, Battery recalled, 2nd ICD lead failure 3/31/07, rec. 26 inappro. shocks Find out more about Srmartinson
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  • #16
    Re: Jogging speed and HCM

    Gordon,
    I don't think they list the individual sports and their risk category in the 2011 HCM guidelines. That is the part I liked about the older paper.
    Also the 2011 AHA/ACCF guidelines are accessible on the HCMA website.
    After years of symptoms:
    Officially Diagnosed HOCM 2006
    Myectomy 3/11/13 at non-COE
    Extended Myectomy 7/23/14
    At Mayo with Dr. Joseph Dearani

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    • #17
      Re: Jogging speed and HCM

      I guess I'm back to my initial question...likely no research but if I keep my heart rate below a certain HR # (which for every HCM is different) then can I run as fast as I feel comfortable? I mean it appears that with conditioning... my heart rate isn't going as high as before and now I'm doing less than 10 min miles...just thinking out loud


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      Dx 1995 with non-obstructed HCM, verapamil 120mg
      2004, ICD, battery recall and migration x2 (3 surgeries)
      2007, 26 inappropriate shocks fr. Lead failure, two lead extraction surgeries...(total 8 surgeries in 4 years NO FUN)
      Since 2008, Living without ICD.......
      2011 First chest pains, frequent Began thinking about new ICD,,,,
      10-2014 I'm ready!

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      • #18
        Re: Jogging speed and HCM

        I'm trying to tell from your signature.... Did you get a new ICD 10/14?
        Your heart rate will also be affected by the meds you are on......The more beta blockers and or channel blockers you are on, the lower your max heart rate will be.
        My Dr gave me a max HR of 120 on beta blockers and then 130 once I got off.
        If I were in your place ... I'd say my priorities would be:
        #1 ICD in place
        #2 Consult HCM MD for a safe maximum heart rate
        #3 Wear a HR monitoring device while running
        #4 Always warm up and cool down
        #5 Run and enjoy
        This is of course, my personal non- medical opinion
        After years of symptoms:
        Officially Diagnosed HOCM 2006
        Myectomy 3/11/13 at non-COE
        Extended Myectomy 7/23/14
        At Mayo with Dr. Joseph Dearani

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        • #19
          Jogging speed and HCM

          Hi Jill, I'm in the process of putting in another ICD...I needed to heal myself from PTSD, involuntary tremors and reactions to lights and sounds...it was incredibly powerful both on myself and my family to experience so many inappropriate shocks. I'm in a much better place thus ready to try again I've changed my mindset!


          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
          Dx 1995 with non-obstructed HCM, verapamil 120mg
          2004, ICD, battery recall and migration x2 (3 surgeries)
          2007, 26 inappropriate shocks fr. Lead failure, two lead extraction surgeries...(total 8 surgeries in 4 years NO FUN)
          Since 2008, Living without ICD.......
          2011 First chest pains, frequent Began thinking about new ICD,,,,
          10-2014 I'm ready!

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          • #20
            Re: Jogging speed and HCM

            Actually, individual sports ARE listed, in Table 2 of the guidelines as published in 2011. But you're right, Jill - it doesn't say anything more specific about the level at which a person participates (or more specifically, the heart rate). I think the intent was to say, more or less, look, certain activities are typically a really good thing for HCM patients, and others are typically a really bad idea. Lap swimming is highly recommended in this list, but I'm fairly sure that many of the HCM specialists would distinguish, at least for some patients, between the plodding along that I do, and "swimming laps" by doing a competitive-level butterfly stroke. I think it's best for each of us to consult our docs about how exercise intensity.

            In the meanwhile, the recommendation that's repeated a lot is to exercise at a conversational level - if you're running too fast to comfortably talk with someone the whole time, you're running too fast. I'll admit that I've always wondered whether, sooner or later, someone might take this too literally and try to apply it to swimming. . .

            Gordon
            Myectomy on Feb. 5, 2007.

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            • #21
              Re: Jogging speed and HCM

              Actually, individual sports ARE listed, in Table 2 of the guidelines as published in 2011. But you're right, Jill - it doesn't say anything more specific about the level at which a person participates (or more specifically, the heart rate). I think the intent was to say, more or less, look, certain activities are typically a really good thing for HCM patients, and others are typically a really bad idea. Lap swimming is highly recommended in this list, but I'm fairly sure that many of the HCM specialists would distinguish, at least for some patients, between the plodding along that I do, and "swimming laps" by doing a competitive-level butterfly stroke. I think it's best for each of us to consult our docs about how exercise intensity.

              In the meanwhile, the recommendation that's repeated a lot is to exercise at a conversational level - if you're running too fast to comfortably talk with someone the whole time, you're running too fast. I'll admit that I've always wondered whether, sooner or later, someone might take this too literally and try to apply it to swimming. . .

              Gordon
              Myectomy on Feb. 5, 2007.

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              • #22
                Re: Jogging speed and HCM

                Ha! Good one Gordon.....Made it through open heart surgery but drowned trying to talk while swimming......
                I usually don't even comment in the exercise section here because I still have trouble walking and talking! Let alone jogging or swimming. I swim a very slow breast stroke wearing a snorkel so I don't have to waste energy lifting my head out of the water to breathe LOL.
                All is good whatever our pace as long as we keep moving in some way shape or form right?
                Last edited by JillC; 12-06-2014, 11:42 PM.
                After years of symptoms:
                Officially Diagnosed HOCM 2006
                Myectomy 3/11/13 at non-COE
                Extended Myectomy 7/23/14
                At Mayo with Dr. Joseph Dearani

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                • #23
                  Re: Jogging speed and HCM

                  I think the activities that are recommended against involve stop-and-start, or straining, or the potential for serious injuries (to the HCM patient or those with them) due to the risk of syncope. For example, rock climbing and scuba are recommended against because passing out while diving or halfway up a rock face could have really dire consequences, both for the HCM patient and for those with them.

                  Obviously we all have to make our own choices, but it's good to make them based on information and a bit of thought.

                  Gordon
                  Myectomy on Feb. 5, 2007.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Jogging speed and HCM

                    I think the activities that are recommended against involve stop-and-start, or straining, or the potential for serious injuries (to the HCM patient or those with them) due to the risk of syncope. For example, rock climbing and scuba are recommended against because passing out while diving or halfway up a rock face could have really dire consequences, both for the HCM patient and for those with them.

                    Obviously we all have to make our own choices, but it's good to make them based on information and a bit of thought.

                    Gordon
                    Myectomy on Feb. 5, 2007.

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