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  • kiwi
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    Most of the party drugs you can get here have already been banned in the US, Margie, so it's unlikely that the people on this site know of them.

    From what I've read and seen (and the Tearaway article is a good starting point), they're even further away from what we can stand than alcohol.

    For those outside NZ, there's a really strong youth drink culture here, with a lot of binge drinking, and really low tolerance of those who don't drink, so Margie's in a really tough place.

    But hang in there girl. It's been so good to meet you through this site. Tell me what are you doing in your days in Rotorua?

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  • Sarah
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    http://www.tearaway.co.nz/Article.aspx?PostingID=4146

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  • Grecoeuro
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    Hi Margie,

    I have heard that those pills are in the process of being banned. There are many cases where people taking them that have cardiac problems are dropping dead. These pills are high in ephedrine and do speed up your heart. If I where you I'd get the best advice from your cardiologist or family physician. Ask him what he thinks? You have nothing to lose by talking to your Doctor about this.

    Take care

    Theo

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  • Sarah
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    nope. never heard of jet etc. but i don't even go to bars anymore b/c i can't stand the smoke --Chicago is still a smoking-allowed town.

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  • mtlieb
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    @Rene'...

    You are more than welcome my dear. I'm only relating advice that I have received from my specialist, but I do respect his opinion above all others and don't believe that he would give me such strict advice if he didn't think it was important to my well-being.

    @Cynthia...

    As much as I sometimes get irritated at my specialist harping on my weight, I do appreciate that he is treating the 'whole' person rather than just treating the HCM. It just makes sense that if I am overweight, then I am putting additional strain on an already overworked heart. I'll cuss the man out under my breath, but will always take to heart his advice concerning my overall state of health. This is one of the benefits of getting care at an experienced center.

    @Margie...

    Whatever it takes to stop drinking I hope you will try your best. You may not be an old 'drunk' like me, but the consequences to your health are just as dire. Get whatever support you need, and learn to have fun without the alcohol. Believe it or not, it's actually more fun being sober.

    Take care all,

    Jim

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  • Rene' Koenig
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    Jim and Leon,

    Thanks for the information on drinking...it makes complete sense. I don't recall Dr. Lever mentioning anything about not drinking alcohol to me. But, then again, I don't remember him asking me if I consumed alcohol or not. But, if he did, I would have told him I only have a drink once in blue moon, so maybe that's why he didn't mention it.

    Such a wealth of knowlege on this board!

    Rene'

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  • ConnieM
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    That sounds like something everyone should stay away from. There are many things in life that are enjoyable without escaping from reality. I have learned this from past experiences.
    John

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  • purple_ness1
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    heya

    have you guys not heard of party pills like jet and chare and all the other ones ??
    there like drinknig ur meant 2 be 18 2 buy them but apart from that anyone can buy them , but i think there on there way 2 been elegal cos 2 many people abuse them and there been 2 many fultal things conneted with them, like ur not ment 2 drink and use them 2gether but people do and it turns out bad

    i dont think there caffiene pills cos its not like a coffee hi , its like the type of hi u get from smoking weed type thing(i have smoked weed be4 but i dont smoke it) , realy tripy and out of this world

    sarah yeah ur right if there a party there drugs all around

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  • angall
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    Yes, I agree.

    When talking to some young people, I feel as though I need a translator nearby...lol
    The English language is not the same, but I suppose our parents felt the same way when we were growing up.

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  • Sarah
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    "party" is the standard euphamism for doing drugs, or at least it was back in the day....

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  • angall
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    Margie,
    Some good advice has been given to you. I hope you think really hard about what you've read. We certainly don't want to see anything happen to you. You are among friends, so vent, ask questions etc.


    Sarah
    I think our vocabulary is out dated. lol I was thinking drugs, too.

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  • Sarah
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    m,

    i hear ya! complain away, that is what we are here for.

    i don't know what kind of party pills you mean that are legal--caffiene pills?

    s

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  • purple_ness1
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    heya

    just thou i say .. when i said "party pills" i was meaning like pary pills the stuff you buy from shops there legal ,i dont do drugs !!

    and i may think it sucks that i have 2 give up drinking but i dont go bak on wat i say , so if i say im gona give it up i will give it up, i may conplane and be pissed of at the heat of the momberment ,but i wont go bak on wat i say

    *margie*

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  • Largehearted
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    Regarding Dr. Lever and alcohol.

    When he did my work up he asked if I consumed alcohol. At the time I drank a glass of red wine each evening for my cholesterol. He said I should stop as it was probably not doing enough good to outweigh the potential bad it was doing.

    I was a bit surprised, but decided he probably knew better than me.

    Peace,

    Leon

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  • Eileen2345
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    and now like the end of last year and this year when eva i drink i feel like crap ??
    owell there alway party pills , let me guess there bad 4 me 2 ?
    Yes, party pills are very bad for your heart.

    Margie, I am going to be real straight with you.

    You have a serious heart condition, if you do any drugs or take party pills or drink too much you could die.
    Or at the very least you could do irreversible damage to your heart.

    I am sorry dear, I know this is not what you want to hear, but it is the truth.

    I know, I was young once too, but you must take this seriously.
    Maybe try to find something that you are passionate about and do that instead of partying.

    Your friends do not understand your the severity of your heart condition.
    Be careful dear, we do not want anything bad to happen to you.

    Take care,
    Eve

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