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  • Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

    I apologize if this thread ends up posted more than once.....I had some trouble with my computer and the human verifier thing.

    I am a 42 year old police officer who just got implanted with an ICD. I am trying to keep my job, but am not sure what my department is going to do. I am too young to collect my retirement benefits and am looking to see if any other officers are still working after being implanted.

    My department does not have "desk" jobs, so I would have to be able to do full duty.

    Thanks
    Dave

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    Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

    Dave - Have you inquired with your police union? Perhaps they can connect you to others (or comment on how others were handled).
    I find it difficult that there are no desk jobs - so intake, processing, transfers, transportation, courtroom, files within a jail are done through the ranks on a rotating schedule? This is only the jail, what about Public Relations, Schools, etc?
    I'm sure others will chime in & wish you luck! Keep us posted.
    Marc
    Diagnosed @ 48
    Saw Dr. Michael Debakey @ age 5 - "He's fine, just a little noisy"
    Father to 3 boys 22, 25, 29 (all currently clear - pending genetics)
    AICD - Valentines Day '08, Spark Plug replaced 11/14
    After much research, I had a Myectomy @ Mayo for my 50th Birthday '08
    Quietly going insane . . .

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      Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

      Marc,

      Our department is only 140 sworn officers, so we don't have any other cases to compare mine to. The union supports me, but the city has taken the stand that all officers must be able to do field work, regardless of their rank or current position within the department. An example is that our detectives may work at a desk today, but may have to rotate back to the street, where they would be required to fulfill the functions of a patrol officer.

      Our corrections and court personnel are completely separate from the police department and have a different union. They are also paid significantly less, so my preference would be to stay in my current job.

      Dave

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        Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

        I know you received the ICD because you needed it and in that light I have a question...

        What would happen and what would the responsibility be of the department and city if your ICD fired during a critical moment while performing your job - I am referring to a gun in your hand?

        I understand you want and need your job but with the ICD comes the need to take the position of not harming others because your device inappropriately fired.

        It is a very sticky situation and I wish you the very best.

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        • #5
          Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

          Frosty,

          Yeah I hear what you are saying. There are lots of "what if's" to consider, which is why I am trying to see what other departments and officers are doing.

          I doubt I will be able to stay in the job, but am doing my research before I make any decisions. I also need to have the best information to bring forward, so the city and department can make the best decision as well.

          I am trying not to get too wrapped up about the ICD firing and causing an issue, such as firing a gun, as one could make the same arguement to all the people with ICD's who drive a car. I think we need to recognize that things can happen, but also balance that with the likelihood that they will.

          Dave

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            Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

            Dave, I think the questions and research you are trying to obtain are fantastic. Totally makes sense and I appreciate you being so forthcoming. I have a few contacts with my local police department and would be happy to contact you to them and/or ask your question. Feel free to personally email me. Stephanie
            Dx 1995 with non-obstructed HCM, verapamil 120mg
            2004, ICD, battery recall and migration x2 (3 surgeries)
            2007, 26 inappropriate shocks fr. Lead failure, two lead extraction surgeries...(total 8 surgeries in 4 years NO FUN)
            Since 2008, Living without ICD.......
            2011 First chest pains, frequent Began thinking about new ICD,,,,
            10-2014 I'm ready!

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            • #7
              Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

              Dave -

              I honestly hope you don't think that I am in any way against you because I am not - just playing Devil's Advocate. By the way, my feelings are the same with regard to any potentially dangerous situation such as driving.

              With all I have read and continue to read both on here and elsewhere that while ICD's are a wonderful invention and do save many lives of the people that have them they and other pieces of technology, such as my computer giving me problems right now, are not perfected to the point where they do exactly what they are supposed to, nothing more, nothing less. Life was so much simpler in the Ice Age which is when my kids swear I grew up.

              I really do wish you the very best and you and the Department can reach some compromise where you job is safe - the world needs more dedicated people.

              Marian

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              • #8
                Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

                Dave, I hope things work in your favor. Frosty, when I read your first post I thought - Wow excellent viewpoint! Thanks for sharing.
                Marc
                Diagnosed @ 48
                Saw Dr. Michael Debakey @ age 5 - "He's fine, just a little noisy"
                Father to 3 boys 22, 25, 29 (all currently clear - pending genetics)
                AICD - Valentines Day '08, Spark Plug replaced 11/14
                After much research, I had a Myectomy @ Mayo for my 50th Birthday '08
                Quietly going insane . . .

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                • #9
                  Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

                  Dave, My local Police Department got back to me saying that it would not be allowed "since often times an officer is suddenly forced into a strenuous situation (without warning) which may accelerate the heart rate." Very interesting response. I would want to check out the American for Disabilities Act since this law states the least restricted environment, but I could be totally wrong with the job/school situation. Sorry this answer leads to more questions vs. answers for me.
                  Dx 1995 with non-obstructed HCM, verapamil 120mg
                  2004, ICD, battery recall and migration x2 (3 surgeries)
                  2007, 26 inappropriate shocks fr. Lead failure, two lead extraction surgeries...(total 8 surgeries in 4 years NO FUN)
                  Since 2008, Living without ICD.......
                  2011 First chest pains, frequent Began thinking about new ICD,,,,
                  10-2014 I'm ready!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

                    Thanks for the responses. Based on the few responses I have gotten, I guess there are very few police officers on this site.

                    I still have more work to do before I decide how to proceed, but appreciate the input.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

                      Unrelated in a way, but my son is in Criminal Justice in College and was headed toward a career as a Police officer. Newly diagnosed with HCM, we spoke with local PD as well as a US Marshall and the County Sheriff teaching his class. All said he would be a liability or wouldn't pass a physical exam for any Police Academy, etc. He is steadfastly looking into other options but still in Law Enforcement..

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                      • #12
                        Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

                        I'm sorry that I just found this Thread. I am a 48 year old Police Officer and I have been in law enforcement for a total of 27 years but I'm not in a position to retire and don't currently meet the age requirements (25 years or 55 years of age). I am currently a Deputy Sheriff assigned as an SRO and I have 6 years past experience with the US Marshals Service which caused a break in my Deputy Sheriff service. In 2010, I experienced a syncopal episode while off-duty and at home. That lead to me visiting the Mayo Clinic where I was confirmed to have HCM. They suggested that I have an ICD placed but I have been successfully being treated with 100 mg of Metroprolol and a daily heart dose over-the-counter Aspirin. I have purposely attempted to avoid any strenuous physical activity and I have had to avoid promotions because of the physical agility requirements. I realize it is probably just a matter of time before I will be leaving law enforcement and having the ICD placed. I have researched the idea of Social Security and Medical Disability for HCM but I can find little on this subject. It appears that it is all in how your doctor writes the letter to social security and how your agency will report it to the State and to Social Security. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need anything else.

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                          Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

                          Hi Dave, sorry if I'm late to post. I am a Police Sgt. With Detroit Police. I have HCM and had a septal Myectomy July, 2011. No ICD like in your case and our dept does have light duty positions available so I am very fortunate when it comes to that. If my memory serves me correctly when I spike with Lisa (site coordinator and HCM specialist) she was calming some of my very same fears and told me that there was an officer in NY I think that had an ICD and was going through the same thing. He/she was either released or going to be released from the dept and the HCMA helped him/her fight for their job and they won.

                          Also, I agree with another poster, check with the ADA. I really think you have options, you are just really going to have to do your research and fight. Good luck to you and most of all, be safe out there.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

                            Hi Dave,

                            I see this post is three years old now and I'm not sure if you'll see it. I am a police officer, newly diagnosed with HCM and have lots of questions ... wondering what has happened for you in the past three years? Carrie

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                              Re: Looking for Police Officers with ICD's

                              Carrie - You can also PM him too. A lot of folks come here for info, get it, and move on, but I do hope he follows up with you. You may want to discuss this with your union rep too.
                              Marc
                              Diagnosed @ 48
                              Saw Dr. Michael Debakey @ age 5 - "He's fine, just a little noisy"
                              Father to 3 boys 22, 25, 29 (all currently clear - pending genetics)
                              AICD - Valentines Day '08, Spark Plug replaced 11/14
                              After much research, I had a Myectomy @ Mayo for my 50th Birthday '08
                              Quietly going insane . . .

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