Side Effects From Emcor

[alann2004]

I SUFFER FROM NIGHT TERRORS SINCE I STARTED TAKING EMCOR 5MG
I WAS ALSO WONDERING WOULD A WHEY PROTEIN SUPPLEMENT TEND TO GIVE YOU PALPATATIONS

[Burton Borrok]

Re: Side Effects From Emcor

This Drug (Bisoprolol fumarate) is also known as: Cardicor, Concor Plus, Concor Plus Forte, Emcor, Monocor, Trasicor, Zebeta, Ziac, Ziak. It is a class of drug known as a Beta blocker – there are many such drugs available today.

Under the name Zebeta there is much information available at - http://www.healthsquare.com/newrx/zeb1667.htm

Nowhere in the write-up does it ever describe night terrors as one of the possible side-effects, so that problem may have different roots. However, since there are many other Beta blockers available, why not discuss your problem with your doctor and try switching to a different drug?

I also found this article -
Whey Protein
Description:
Whey is one of the proteins found in milk (the other is casein). Whey protein accounts for only about 20% of the total protein found in milk, while casein makes up about 80% or milk protein. Long considered a useless by-product of dairy (cheese) manufacturing, whey protein is enjoying an increased interest as a protein supplement. Whey has a long history of use as a cheap protein source for low-cost protein powders and used to be viewed as a "disposal problem" for the dairy industry. Recent claims of the high biological activity of whey protein, and the profits to be made by selling something that used to be thrown away, have encouraged dairy processing plants to begin processing and spray-drying in various ways to enhance its benefits in commercial protein powders.

Claims:
• Enhanced immune function
• Increased protein synthesis
• More “biologically active” than other proteins
• Associated with greater nitrogen retention

Theory:
Whey protein is rich in certain amino acids and low in fat. The key amino acids, the branched chain amino acids (BCAAs = leucine, valine and isoleucine) may help delay fatigue during endurance exercise. Another amino acid, cysteine, can be found in relatively high amounts in whey protein - compared to other protein sources such as soy or gelatin in which cysteine is lacking. Various protein groups found in whey protein have been cited as "immune stimulators".

Scientific Support:
Whey proteins can differ dramatically from one another depending on the processing method and the total protein content. For example, whey protein can exist as simple whey powder (30% or less total protein content), whey protein concentrate (30-85% protein) or whey protein isolate (90% or higher protein content). In the case of whey protein isolates (the most expensive type), two key processing methods, ion exchange filtration and cross-flow micro-filtration can remove different components of the total whey protein, resulting in end products with different taste, texture and functional properties. Whey proteins processed using the ion exchange methodology appear to retain the majority of the functional benefits associated with immune system maintenance. Enhanced resistance to infection and elevated glutathione levels (an antioxidant enzyme containing cysteine) have been noted in subjects consuming concentrated whey protein. Whey protein also contains lactoferrin, a protein that has been shown to possess bacteriostatic and bactericidal activity against microorganisms that can cause gastroenteric infections and food poisoning.

Whey protein has been used in a number of animal and human feeding studies, where it has shown benefits in promoting weight gain, elevating glutathione levels (an antioxidant), and preventing metabolic acidosis (although the same can be claimed for virtually any high-quality protein source). Whether or not the minor content differences between various whey proteins actually result in any appreciable differences in muscle gain in humans (their primary claim) has never been demonstrated.

Safety:
There are no adverse side effects associated with whey protein.

Value:
Whey protein can be used as a general source of high quality, low fat protein in any diet. Those individuals who also want the supposed immune system benefits of whey protein, may want to consider the more expensive whey isolates produced by ion exchange filtration – be aware, however, that these claims are largely speculative and have not yet been adequately proven in human subjects. Individuals in this category may include athletes at risk for infection (during intense training or recovery) or anybody recovering from injury or illness. Those individuals simply looking for a high quality protein source to supplement their diet may want to consider one of the less expensive protein concentrates currently available, such as casein, egg, or soy.

Dosage:
Intake levels should be based on total caloric requirements, body weight and period of training. During intense training or recovery, you may want as much as 50% of your protein requirements to come from whey protein or other source of concentrated low fat protein (approximately 40 g/day for a 160lb man). As a general daily supplement, however, lower doses of whey, perhaps 10-20 grams per day, as part of an adequate intake combined with other protein sources, may be sufficient to deliver the biological benefits of whey. A useful combination strategy is to split protein intake evenly between high quality sources such as whey, egg, casein and soy proteins.

I hope this information is of use to you.
Burt

[Pam Alexson]

Re: Side Effects From Emcor

Hi Alan,

Welcome, Burt has been his usual very info packed man to go to regarding the supplement so I have nothing further to offer and I have no knowledge of these things, however I can comment on the Emcor ( beta blocker.)

Beta blockers do give the side effect of vivid dreams. Each of our neurological systems are unique and specific to each of us individually with a little shared crossover. Therefore we all feel and react to chemicals unique for ourselves. Vivid dreams for me could be a nightmare on Elm Street for you. Get my drift. Usually as the medication gets into our systems and we are aware of this effect and that we are not losing our minds, we intellectualize it a bit, so we come to terms with it so to speak. Our system adjusts and the unwanted effect dissipates. Now this usually occurs at by week 6. If after that point the terrors are troublesome , worse , or intollerabe, then it is probably a good idea to change types of beta blocker. Nonetheless it is a good idea to discuss this problem with your doctor.

In conclussion we are all wired differently so therefore we react differently.

Hope this helps.

Pam

[BigHeart]

Re: Side Effects From Emcor

I have been taking 5mg twice a day for 3 years. No particular side effect except fatigue.
I'm not sure where the reference for "whey" came from. Can you elaborate?

[Glen Beamish]

Re: Side Effects From Emcor

Hi Alan, in the US it's referred most as Zebeta, in Canada it's Monocor.
I have been taking Monocor for 2 years now, before that it was Atenolol and before that inderal for 25 years.
They all give me vivid dreams, but none more or less than the other.
Also some where nightmares, but I can't say they were regular or any more regular than someone else not taking the medication.

[Sarah]

Re: Side Effects From Emcor

It is possible to have vivid, bizarre dreams or nightmares on betablockers.

Some will cause more than others. Talk to your doctor about trying a different beta-blocker.

I find that metroprolol is the worst for me and the rest not too many problems. nadolol gave me the fewest nightmares.

Good luck and don't throw out the baby with the bath water.

take care,

S